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Joseph Conrad's point of view was far from modern. In the modern world there are two philosophies: the one which stems from Rousseau, and sweeps aside discipline as unnecessary, the other, which finds its fullest expression in totalitarianism, which thinks of discipline as essentially imposed from without. Conrad adhered to the older tradition, that discipline should come from within. He despised indiscipline and hated discipline that was merely external. In all this I found myself closely in agreement with him. At our very first meeting, we talked with continually increasing intimacy.
Source: The Autobiography of Bertrand Russell, v.1
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